My brickwall is finding my ancesters on the 1820 US Census. William George was born CA 1784 in greater Virginia and his wife Delilah was born CA 1788 in South Carolina according to the 1850 US Census of Cherokee County Texas. Records show a William George married a Delilah Chandler 08 Jan 1811 in Hamilton County Ohio. Their known children were born in Indiana 1811-1929. The extended family was in Texas by 1835.

William George died 06 Feb 1851 in Cherokee County Texas and the heirs were his wife Delilah, Stephen C George (1813),William E George (1817), John W George (1823), Hiram Walker, John M Chisum, Elijah K Chisum and Josiah Thomas. Judah George (1811) married Hiram Walker 14 Jun 1827 in Lawrence County Indiana. Mary E George (1815) married her first husband, John Van Winkle, 25 May 1830 in Clark County Illinois and after he was killed she married John M Chisum in Texas. Her Entry Permit into Mexico lists her as the widow Van Winkle.Delilah George (1820) married Elijah Chisum in Texas. Josiah Thomas married Mary "Polly" Chandler 10 Aug 1824 and her sister, Cynthia Chandler married John Battle Mayfield 19 Feb 1829 both in Lawrence County Indiana. There father, John Chandler, is on the 1810 and 1820 Census in Cumberland County Kentucky and he died there in 1823.

I finally found William George, Hiram Walker and John Van Winkle on the 1830 Census in Clark County Illinois on Ancestry.com. I also searched the 1820 Census frame by frame for a William George in Illinois an Indiana to no avail. I don't have access to Heritage Quest or the Territorial and State Censuses 1807-1835 for this area.

Most moves involved land. The Chandlers received land in Cumberland County Kentucky in 1800 and I think they came from South Carolina. A William George was in Ohio Country, Military Lands of Virginia on a 1803 Census. He or his father may have received land in the Northwest Territory for military service and then land in Illinois for service in the War of 1812?

My George Family Tree is on Ancestry.com and I am member georgedl1. I am also in the George Surname Study Group done by Family Tree DNA. I would very much appreciate any assistance or suggestions.

no heritage quest access? where do you live?

actually, heritage quest only indexes by head of household AFAIK, so it may not help you that much if he was not the head..

story too complex for me tonite but wanted to make those comments.

understand you are frustrated by this. hopefully fellow board members can help more with this.

tc

Im bumping this up for the member to see if we can get a discussion going on it

Have you checked the Wm George in Ohio in 1820? I found several Wm George's scattered all over, Virginia, Kentucky..I am just not sure if any of these might be yours.

Steph

Well I looked for William George on all the available Censuses for 1820. I can't tie any of those to mine. Since his known Children were born there 1811-1829 and some were married there I assume he must have been there. I believe he married Delilah Chandler in Hamilton County Ohio on 08 Jan 1811. I have traced the Chandlers back to Cumberland County Kentucky 1800-1823 then some of them went to Indiana and then Texas with the Georges. There are Georges and Chandlers on the 1820 Census South of the Licking River in Harrison County Kentucky but noone in the Chandler Family Association answeres my questions about either group. I belong to the George Surname Study Group with Family Tree DNA and the George Family show on Ancestry.com our shown in a different Haplogroup. The Trees are not very good, showing fathers and sons with the same birthdate and deathdate? Of course the 1820 Census shows only the name for the head of household and age ranges. If William N was in his fathers household the other William George could be mine? But that would make their whole paper trail wrong back to an ancester with a different DNA. The tree didn't even reference that Census! I E-mailed the owner but never got a response.

I am not sure you got her point, which seemed to be that the entry was abbreviated to "Wm George". If that is what she meant, the search engine would not find a William, but would find a Wm.

Also, I share your frustration in writing people who do not write back. You should try again, in case they did not see your email or have registered a new email address.

And check http://ySearch.org as well, since they may have transferred their results and entered a more current address there. I think the two are tied together, but glitches do sometimes occur.

They also might have entered their results at http://dna.ancestry.com so you should go through the painful process of entering your results by hand there, to see if you find them or other matches there.

Also remember DNA matching is not as exact a science as it ought to be. I've read that first and second cousins can be off by two to four markers. It might be statisticallly unlikely, but it can and does happen.