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autumndivona
I am willing to do look-ups at NEHGS. They have many records online, including the Massachusetts Vital Records from 1841-1910, the vital records to 1850 series, and Rhode Island vital records.

I have several of the Mayflower Society's silver books and many other books in my personal library. I am a bibliophile. If there is a book about my family, I purchase it.


Here is a list of book in which I can do look-ups:


1. "Royal Families: Americans of Royal and Noble Ancestry, volume two, Reverend Francis Marbury and
Five Generations of His Descendants Through Anne (Marbury) Hutchinson and Katherine (Marbury) Scott", by Marston Watson, 2004

2. "The Benson Family of Colonial Massachusetts" by Richard H. Benson, 2003

3. "The Royal Descents of 600 Immigrants to the American Colonies or the United States" by Gary Boyd Roberts, 2006

4. "The Kempton/Kimpton Families in North America from Plymouth Colony through the Tenth Generation throughout the United States and Canada", by Morton W. Saunders, 2000


I have the following "Mayflower Families Through Five Generations" silver books:

Vol. 6, Stephen Hopkins

Vol. 7, Peter Brown

Vol. 14, Myles Standish

Vol. 15, James Chilton & Richard More

Vol. 16, John Alden (parts 1 - 3)

Vol. 17, Isaac Allerton

Vol. 18, Richard Warren (parts 1 - 3)

Vol. 20, Henry Samson (parts 1 - 3)

Vol. 21, John Billington (my favorite troublemaker)

Vol. 23, John Howland (part 1, published in 2006)


On Mayflower Families, I also have:

"John Howland of the Mayflower" by Elizabeth Pearson White, volumes 1 and 2, which cover only Desire Howland and her husband, Capt. John Gorham, and John Howland and his wife, Mary Lee


I have the following "Mayflower Families in Progress" paperback books (all the newest editions):

William Brewster, volumes 1-4

George Soule, volumes 1-5

Francis Cooke


And, finally, on families that married into Mayflower families and were prominent in Plymouth County, I have the following:

"Robert Bartlett of the Anne and his Descendants of Four Generations" by Robert S. Wakefield, FASG

"Philip Delano of the Fortune, 1621" by Muriel Curtis Cushing, parts 1 and 2

"Richard Church and his Descendants of Four Generations", by Robert S. Wakefield, FASG


Phew! I sure hope I can help someone! biggrin.gif

Wendy (Wood) Hawksley
Delaware
kalina
Hi Wendy! It looks like you have quite a lot of resources. I dont even come close-but hopefully at some point I will be able to offer help to others too. Your Mayflower stuff looks interesting....I really need to find the notes I have on our Mayflower history but I haven't gotten to it yet.

The reason I am actually posting is you mentioned being able to look at some vital records from New England area....I dont know if you can help at all b/c my "brick wall" with this is so tall:D

Here is my situation and what I am trying to find. My great great grandmother Maria (Besse) Ameno came from Italy in 1890 (as we know it) with her 5 children: Joseph, Frank, Robert, Henry and a daughter who we "think" is named Pia or something related to that. We know they lived in Boston area and Maria had a brother, Peter Besse I believe, who lived there and helped to bring her over. We believe the daughter was the oldest child but we know she died sometime after arriving in the USA. We are not sure when. Based on a piece of paper I found I believe that this daughter was buried in St Joseph's Cemetary in Brookline. I do not know a year other than it would be after 1890. Do you know of any place to try and find more information or is there any thing you might have access to that could help with this? I have attached the image I am referring to to show you.

If you can't help-that is quite ok! I am slowly sifting through my paper notes and trying to get them on the computer so I can organize them in my notes here but I happen to see your post and thought it was at least worth a shot to ask!

Thanks for your help!
autumndivona
I am not sure how well the images will come out, but let's see!

Emeno, Pia F., died in Boston, 1897, volume 474, page 390. The image shows:


25 Sept, Pia F. Emeno, female, single, age 16 years, 1 month and 2 days, died of "pernicious anaemia (12 months)", resided at Newbern Place, place of birth: Italy, parents Hanery Emeno and Marietta Besse, both born in Italy.

I am now attempting to attach the images... I had to do this in 2 separate images, so the view was close enough for you to read the record.

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kalina
OH MY GOD!

I think you have found it! It matches the info we always "heard" but didn't "KNOW". THANK YOU so much for helping me. With this information I can now try to find them.

Where did you find this again? I know you mentioned volume and page number but I wondered from what document?

I so appreciate your help and if I can ever help you, I hope I can return the favor. The past two days I have been working on the Besse side of the family and it seems like a lot of little tidbits are fitting together.

It says she resided at Newbern Place....that sounds so familiar. I am going to have to get out the big guns today.

Thank you again-sincerely. I have a feeling today is going to be a good day. without getting sappy, today is a year ago my grandmother died and all day as I have been putting things together I have felt like I am getting a little extra help-you have given that to me.

Now if I can decifer a few things more about the Besse family I might even find some more gems.

thank you SOOOOOO much!
Shanifaye
THIS is what this whole community is about!!! dancing.gif
kalina
QUOTE(Shanifaye @ Mar 31 2007, 02:17 PM) [snapback]1030[/snapback]

THIS is what this whole community is about!!! dancing.gif


And why I am so glad to be a part of it. I just hope I can help someone like this someday-as I am sure I will need help again too!
Steph
Kalina,
I'm so happy for you I could just cry. Just think it if weren't for this specific website you might have waited years to find that piece of info.


Wendy,
Thank you for being so gracious as to share what you have.

I am must warm all over....and No Shannon ...it's NOT hot flashes

Steph
autumndivona
I am VERY happy to help, Kalina and everyone.

This comes from the New England Historic Genealogical Society. They have a database of Massachusetts vital records from 1841-1910. They have actually scanned the original town registers, indexed them, and linked the indexes to the scanned images.

So if you were to write to the town of Boston to get an original death certificate of Pia F. Emeno from September 25, 1897, this is their own book they would reference to type up a certificate for you.

Brookline, MA is a suburb of Boston, just down the street from Fenway Park (aka Brookline Ave.). biggrin.gif

There is nothing like rounding out family info, eh? Have a great weekend, everyone!
kalina
QUOTE(Steph @ Mar 31 2007, 03:22 PM) [snapback]1033[/snapback]

Just think it if weren't for this specific website you might have waited years to find that piece of info.


honestly, this is SOOO true. I had pretty much given up all hope of ever finding anything that matched up to the word of mouth "Stories" we thought we knew but had so little info and no exact dates. This site has not only helped me with it, it has inspired me to really get my stuff together and try some of these puzzles I had put down, and maybe even look into those I thought were long gone.

The one little piece of paper with her name and cemetery and the rumour she had died around age 16 in Boston after they were in the USA was all I had-this info supports what we knew plus gave me dates! Plus, we had always thought it was shortly after they arrived that she died, but with this information it was actually about 7 years!

Thank you again-sincerely!
Shawn
Congrats Kalina! smile.gif I'm glad Wendy was able to help you. Good Job Wendy! biggrin.gif
brud
Hi Wendy,

I have "The Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants" to the American Colonies of the United States by Gary Boyd Roberts. I didn't see this on your list. Is the 600 a later version?

Most of my progenator side is from the Charleston, South Carolina area. This book (published 1993, page 453) has one of my immigrant anscestors (Jean Francois Gignilliat & Suzanne Le Serrurier) with the genealogy leading back to the first King of France, Hughes Capet (987 ad). There are a couple "of uncertain maternities" in the ancestry.

I was wondering if you had this book or its followup and could confirm my findings and see if any "of uncertain maternity's" had been found?

Thanks for the help!

Arthur Gignilliat Porcher III
Orlando, Florida
Sandra Staley
Yay!!!!

This is what it's about!!!


Being able to help is as thrilling as being helped in genealogy dancing.gif

Sandra.
autumndivona
Hello Arthur,

RD600 is, indeed, an updated version. The first edition was printed in 2004; I have the 2nd edition with the 2006 addendum and coda. In this edition, Jean Francois Gignilliat and Suzanne le Serrurier are found on page 556.

"Uncertain maternities" continue in this edition; specifically:

#13. (of uncertain maternity) Marguerite de Langin = Henri d'Allinges, Seigneur de Coudree

#20. (of uncertain maternity) Guigues de Rovereaz = twice

#21. (of uncertain maternity) Claudia Antonia de Rovereaz = Georges de Ville

These are the only 3 listings of uncertain maternity specifically, as the fathers were listed as having been married twice or "two or three times".
donnac91
Oh Wendy,

In post #1, you say you have a book on the KEMPTON/KIMPTON. Inquiring mind needs to know if you could do a little look up for me. tongue.gif

You see my maiden name in KEMPTON. I have traced back to my gggg-grandfather Daniel Kempton. Daniel was born 15 Sep 1813. But the million dollar question is where? On his son's death cert, it is stated that he was born on the Atlantic ocean between Wales and America. I have seen on censuses pob was Pennsylvania and England. I can't prove anything yet wallbash.gif

I have tried the Kempton site on Rootsweb but they aren't related (or at least I can't tie into them yet tongue.gif ) As far as I can tell they decend from Ephriam KEMPTON. (spelling may be off)

Any help will be appreciated

Donna Kempton Cornelius
J~netter
Hi,
I am a descendent of Anne Maurbury, all the royals of Europe and also I am a Mayflower descendent as well. My Mayflower desendents are the Fullers. Anything you have would be greatly appreciated.
brud
My dear Wendy,

Thank you so much for checking the RD600 for me. If the uncertain maternity is from multiple marriages, is their any substantiation to the lineage?

You said you hoped you could help someone and Wendy, you are really helping people a lot. I hope I can be as gracious in the near future. I have a lot of books re: South Carolina, Georgia and French Huguenots in a box, especially the transactions of the Huguenot Society of South Carolina that I both inherited and have received as a member. I'll try to pull them out of the garage ASAP and list them here so I can answer people's questions as well.

You're great, and thanks again!

(((PEACE)))
autumndivona
Donna - with regard to the Kempton line, this book is specific to the descendants of Ephraim Kempton, and I am sorry to say that I did not find your Daniel in it.


Arthur - these uncertain maternities are, indeed, due to multiple marriage. In the instance of Guiges de Rovereaz, it simply says he was married twice. And for his father, Pierre de Rovoree, Seigneur de Granges, it says he was married "two or three times".

I am not sure if the sources cited in my RD600 are the same as your RD500. It looks like the main source is "The American Genealogist", vol. 53 (1977), pgs. 129-131, an article by Henry Bainbridge Hoff. Perhaps the back copy of that issue would give you the primary sources you seek?

The entry here says "and sources cited therein (the TAG article), esp. Comte E. Amedee de Foras, "Armorial et Nobiliare de l'Ancien Duche de Savoie" (1863-1938)."


J~Netter - I have nothing on Fuller. He is one of the few Mayflower passengers from which I do not descend. smile.gif However, if you let me know your line to Anne Marbury, I can look it up for any verification you desire.


Sorry I didn't respond sooner. Yesterday I was a victim of one of the bugs that's been "going around".
donnac91
Thanks for looking Wendy. sad.gif I had hoped but oh well. Now if I could just remember where I found that site with a passenger list for 1813. unsure.gif

Hope your feeling better! I have a sinus/allergy/cold thing happening this week. Don't you just love this odd weather we're having this year. tongue.gif ( At least it's odd in OK, in 80's yesterday and 40-50 today blink.gif )

Donna
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