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Discarded memories, Family Bibles on ebay

Saturday, May 31st, 2008

I orginally wrote this awhile back….but a conversation about this on one of the mailing lists today was about family bibles and I thought I would recycle this for anyone that might have missed it the first time.

It occured to me today while I was posting some of these on my own genealogy forum that a lot of you just might realize what I am about to tell you. I dont know how many of you use ebay, but there are ALWAYS people on there selling old family bibles that have a wealth of information in them. I know I spent 10 years trying to track down one of my own family bibles and once I found it, of course the information in it was invaluable. While I dont really condone people making a profit off others genealogy information (I know if I came accross something like these things I would do my best to track down someone researching the family and give it to them) it would not hurt you to look on ebay for stuff like this. There are more than you might think….also remember to keep an eye out at garage/estate sales. Unfortunately non genealogists just dont realize what they are getting rid of.

If you go to ebay and just put in family bible in the search you will see what Im saying, and some of these things are not going for cheap prices!!! I have also found MANY old family photos there as well.

Just thought I’d tell everyone about that in case they hadnt thought of it :)

I am keeping a thread going on the forum of the finds I make on ebay so be sure to check it out to see if any of them could help you out!!! Some of these sellers actually tell you what listed on the birth/death/marriage pages and post pics of them, so you might want to keep this in the back of your mind next time you’re looking for a bible

Discarded Memories

Star of the West, first shot or not?

Monday, May 5th, 2008

I have been doing a lot of reading the last few weeks regarding the War of Northern Aggression, and in one of the books I’m reading, Confederates in the Attic by Tony Horwitz, I came across something I had never ever heard before…while I am sure a lot of people HAVE heard this, I am equally sure I’m not the only one to whom this story was “new”. I thought I would pass it along to those that may have interest in it. It is in no way meant to be an “opinion” piece; I am just passing along a story.

Were the shots fired on Fort Sumter in April 1861 indeed the first shots fired in the war? Some would say yes, some would say no. A lot of people in Charleston SC would definitely say no considering the events of January 1861 when cadets from the Citadel fired shots upon a Yankee supply ship called The Star of the West, to others the events starting at 4:30 A. M. on April 12, 1861, when Confederate batteries opened fire on Fort Sumter, Charleston Harbor, South Carolina was when War of Northern Aggression had begun.

Three months prior to that fateful day in April, Charleston was notified by a southern sympathizer by telegraph that a ship mean to resupply the troops at Fort Sumter had left New York carrying about 200 men with Charles R Woods of the 9th Infantry in command.

The story goes that cadets along with some militia were camped in a converted small pox hospital on Morris Island to work on fortification and in about 4 days installed 4 twenty-four pound siege guns at the northern end of the island. After the guns had been installed the cadets participated in drill exercises and a schedule was established for guard posts.

On January 9, 1861 Cadet William Simkins spotted the steamer “Star of the West” from his sentry post sailing towards Morris Island in the early morning light. Major P. F. Stevens was alerted and Cadet Simkins was ordered to take his position on Gun No. 1 to help prepare it for firing at the on coming steamer. The unarmed ship, The Star of the West arrived in the harbor and was fired upon by the cadets, the first shot a warning shot across the bow of the ship, at this point the ship raised a full sized garrison flag and continued towards Fort Sumter, who was unaware of the mêlée taking place and all told was fired upon at least 17 times, taking two or three actual hits. As the ship had no cannon and no support from the unalerted Fort Sumter, she aborted her mission, lowered her flag and turned around and headed back to New York taking all her supplies and men with her.

The next day, the peppery Charleston Mercury carried the headline: “THE CITADEL CADETS FIRE THE FIRST SHOTTED GUN. The Mercury characterized the firing on the Star of the West as the “opening ball of the Revolution” and expressed pride that “our harbor has been so honored.

It would be another 3 months before the “official” start of a 4 year bloody war that would change this country forever, but in the hearts and minds of many, this WAS the beginning.

I definitely think it makes for an interesting trivia question!!

If you would like to discuss this story, you may do so HERE

Memorial/dedication service help needed

Monday, April 28th, 2008

I have had a project in the works for a few years now….it was my goal to find out where my husbands 3rd great grandfather was buried so that I could see if he had a grave marker that notated his service during the War between the States, it took me almost 2 years to find where he was buried and he had no stone at all. I gathered all the necessary paperwork and ordered the free stone from the VA and it is back now and awaiting the monument company to install it for me.

This means I can start planning the memorial service and I’d really like to hear from people that have done this kind of thing before. I have a few ideas in my head and I have 5 months to get it planned (the service is set for September) but I REALLY want this to be something special….so if any of you out there have ever done this, or know someone that has planned one, I would really like to hear from you on what you did and how you went about it.

He didnt die in the war…he served almost the entire war and was at the surrender in 1865. He died in 1923.

Click here to add your ideas!!

Did Indiana woman get away with murders?

Monday, April 28th, 2008

LAPORTE, Ind. - Asle Helgelien didn’t believe Belle Gunness’ claims that his brother, missing for months after answering the widow’s lonely hearts ad, had left her northern Indiana farm for Chicago or maybe their native Norway.

Suspicious after a bank said his brother, Andrew, had cashed a $3,000 check — a large sum in 1908 — the South Dakota farmer came to LaPorte and discovered his brother’s remains in a pit of household waste.

A century later, modern forensic scientists hope to solve once and for all what appears to have been a web of multiple murders, deceit, sex and money orchestrated by a woman dubbed Lady Bluebeard, after the fairy tale character who killed multiple wives and left their bodies in his castle.

Many locals believed Gunness staged her death in a farmhouse fire, 100 years ago Monday, before Asle Helgelien’s arrival to cover up years spent poisoning and dismembering more than two dozen people.

Forensic anthropologist Andi Simmons grew up in the area east of Chicago hearing tales of the LaPorte black widow.

“There was always a sense of, what if she’s still out there? What if she’s lurking around,” said Simmons, who decided to explore the case as part of her thesis.

Story continued here

Online Death Certs

Wednesday, April 23rd, 2008

The LDS has got several states death records and/or certs online (not the image as far as I can tell, but fully transcribed)

Be sure to read the description to see what is and isnt included in each collection

Ohio 1908-1953
Texas 1890-1976
Utah 1904-195
Washington 1904-1960
Georgia 1919-1927
Ontario 1869-1947
West Virginia 1853-1970

they also have the social security death index

you have to register to be able to use the search

AC Discussion

Add AC to your iGoogle

Tuesday, April 22nd, 2008

Go HERE to get instructions to add Ancestrally Challenged to your iGoogle page!!!

Tombstone found on boat a mystery

Tuesday, April 22nd, 2008

What do you do when you find a century-old tombstone aboard your houseboat?

Robert Payne had to answer that question last weekend when a cleaning person called him to Charleston City Marina after finding an 1894 baby’s marble tombstone in a cabinet on his rental boat.

The marker, which is about 14 inches tall and weighs about 75 pounds, bears the inscription:

Infant son of R.W. & E.J. Hypes

Born Nov. 2, 1894 Died Nov. 29 1894.

story continued here

Would you like to know anything from the descendant of the boy in the iron coffin?

Thursday, April 10th, 2008

I have just been notified by Deborah, from the Smithosonian, that Linda Dwyer has agreed to send me a picture to post on the website, she has given Linda my email address and I’m *hoping* that she wont mind answering a few questions so I can conclude my story!!!

If there is anything you’d especially like to know from her let me know and I will try to ask her. I already plan on trying to cover the…”Were you interested in genealogy before this” kind of questions.

heh….Im so excited!!!

if there is anything you’d like to know from Ms. Dwyer, please login and post your question here    Putting a face on William White

Ancestrally Challenged is offering space for Genweb sites to move to

Wednesday, March 26th, 2008

I thought I would put this out there, in case anyone here either runs a genweb site or knows someone that does.

I am offering space for free on my server to genweb sites that would like to move to their “own space”. The first one, for Pike County Ga is being loaded up now.

This space is being offered for free BUT, yes there are a few buts, I have a few rules about it.

1. We all know how I feel about those crappy genweb sites that dont look like they really care about themselves, the ones full of dead links, nothing BUT links and the ones that really have no information. So to move to my server for free, they must be an active site that strives to have material and files actually on the site, in other words its run by a co-ordinator that gives a crap what their page has to offer others.

2. All I ask is that the page put a link to this site on it

3. The person that manages the website must be able to design/upload files via an FTP program, because of security on the server it is not possible to ftp via the internet

Anyone interested can send me a link to the existing site and I will look at it…I know Im sounding a tad picky, but if I’m going to host it I think I have the right to require a “quality” county site smile.gif

I will have access of course to the county page, but I will in no way up or download anything to it (unless asked by the page owner) and information will not be “copied” here without the express permission of the page owner (I dont want anyone thinking Im out to steal files lol)

If there are questions please ask on the forum here

What do you want in a genealogy site?

Tuesday, March 25th, 2008

Well, it has been a week since the announcement that rootsweb was absorbed by Ancestry. I have spent a week reading the discussions on the mailing lists, blogs etc. I have seen people defend the action and I’ve seen groups jump like rats on a sinking ship.

Consider this my one year “state of the union” address lol

I honestly do not know what I think about what happened, I would *like* to take Ancestry at their word, but we all know they’ve tried to pull the wool over our eyes before. This is not bashing their recent move. This is about what I envision a genealogy site should be, this is about what I need people to do to help get us where I want us to be. This is about the fact that I cannot stand sites that charge money to access things that other people have submitted. This is about, I cannot do this by myself.
Lots of us have worked on our own genealogy projects. Lots of us have transcribed something, survery a cemetery, worked on some part of a census etc. AC is only as good as the contributors, AC is only going to help other people when we share what we have.

For a year now I and a handful of other members (and we are well over 600 now) have done our best to share resources, transcriptions, files, etc that I personally have done. I have several things that I’m working on transcribing to add to the site….but just a few people absolutely cannot get enough information up to help an entire nation of researchers looking for things. So here are some ideas that I had to hopefully get you, the AC member, to contribute some (in no particular order)

1. If you put a query out on a rootsweb mailing list, or ancestry message board etc…. Come here and post it as well, I KNOW, I know, I know, we all get busy….but if we can make time to put a query out somewhere else, it only takes a few minutes more to add it here.. It’s been proven MANY times that google searches bring up the AC post in the results, not a rootsweb mailing list post and as I have said many times…the more places you have your query the more people that will see it. Believe it or not, not everyone uses the rootsweb mailing list. I have had people find my own personal queries from this board and contact me.
2. If you have a death certificate/birth certificate/marriage license/ cemetery or tombstone picture(s) or transcription(s)/Bible records post them here too
3. If you have done like I have and transcribed even one particular district on a census, post It here too. You never know who is going to see it.
4. How many of you submit to find a grave? If you submit there, there is no reason you cannot post It here too.
5. Obituaries…we had QUITE a run when the obituary forum started, but it has died off. I KNOW more of us have more obituaries laying around.
6. Have you sent off for military service records or pension records? Share them with us!!
7. If you volunteer to do lookups, remember to check back to see if someone needs your assistance
8. If you post a query, remember to check back to see if any of us have questions for you..OR actually found something for you.

This site has the potential to do SUCH good for people….it already has, we have hooked up cousins, we have found people or records that other people didn’t have the resources to find and for what cost? TIME, that’s all it takes. So many of us revel in helping someone break through that wall, it makes us feel good to help someone else and take our minds off OUR brick walls.

This site is not going anywhere, it will never merge with anyone else, it will never sell out to anyone else, it will never ask you for money, all it will ever ask you for…is to share and to show the sites out there to make a buck, that it CAN be done, just out of kindness and the willingness to share.

I also want to remind everyone that this site DOES have a section for members to talk about non-genealogy related stuff. Sometimes you just want to lighten up and joke around. I see it start to happen on the mailing lists and people have a good time until someone comes in with the “I’m tired of reading about this, it has nothing to do with -insert mailing list name- please take it off the list. People by nature like to feel a comradery with the people they “communicate” with on a daily or weekly basis. As much as I do research, believe it or not there ARE times I’d like to hear a good joke or hear about something interesting that’s going on with a member…so remember there is the chit chat forum just to hang out in and take our genealogy hats off.

Last, but certainly not least, if you don’t understand how the board works ASK, don’t just mail me and ask me to delete you because “it’s too hard”. It REALLY is easy to use and I am MORE than happy to work with you until you understand it.

If anyone else has ideas for how others can contribute I would love to hear them….so don’t be shy!!!! So please post in the thread I have made for this here
What do you want in a genealogy site


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